Comments on: Ant 1.8.0 released http://www.build-doctor.com/2010/02/10/ant-1-8-0-released/ Helping to deliver working software, one continuous integration build at a time Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:50:11 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: admin http://www.build-doctor.com/2010/02/10/ant-1-8-0-released/comment-page-1/#comment-797 admin Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:38:25 +0000 http://www.build-doctor.com/?p=1563#comment-797 @adam - that's my reading of it. This might help some of the attempts to make more opinionated Ant tools. @john If you're fluent in Puppet, who cares? My wordpress installs are managed by Puppet. Puppet will roll back unauthorised changes, which is nice. You could use Fabric or Capistrano instead, or call them from Puppet. I wouldn't use Ant though. Ant's good for building and packaging software. There are better tools for deployment but people still keep bending and twisting Ant to do deploys. @adam – that’s my reading of it. This might help some of the attempts to make more opinionated Ant tools.

@john If you’re fluent in Puppet, who cares? My wordpress installs are managed by Puppet. Puppet will roll back unauthorised changes, which is nice. You could use Fabric or Capistrano instead, or call them from Puppet.

I wouldn’t use Ant though. Ant’s good for building and packaging software. There are better tools for deployment but people still keep bending and twisting Ant to do deploys.

]]> By: John Arundel http://www.build-doctor.com/2010/02/10/ant-1-8-0-released/comment-page-1/#comment-795 John Arundel Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:35:22 +0000 http://www.build-doctor.com/?p=1563#comment-795 Here's a question for you. Someone commented on my recent post about <a href="http://bitfieldconsulting.com/puppet-drupal" rel="nofollow">managing Drupal with Puppet</a> that they don't think Puppet should be touching the software stack on the machine (PHP + Apache in this case) and that they use Ant (plus Fabric, etc) for this. I see that Ant is becoming very sophisticated. So where do you think the boundary should be drawn between building the base machine with a CM tool such as Puppet, and deploying the software stack with a tool like Ant? Here’s a question for you. Someone commented on my recent post about managing Drupal with Puppet that they don’t think Puppet should be touching the software stack on the machine (PHP + Apache in this case) and that they use Ant (plus Fabric, etc) for this.

I see that Ant is becoming very sophisticated. So where do you think the boundary should be drawn between building the base machine with a CM tool such as Puppet, and deploying the software stack with a tool like Ant?

]]> By: Adam Leggett http://www.build-doctor.com/2010/02/10/ant-1-8-0-released/comment-page-1/#comment-794 Adam Leggett Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:33:31 +0000 http://www.build-doctor.com/?p=1563#comment-794 Presumably the new import task means I can package/release a suite of common build files as a Jar, much like an antlib and load via the classloader somehow? Presumably the new import task means I can package/release a suite of common build files as a Jar, much like an antlib and load via the classloader somehow?

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